Helldivers 2 on Xbox - Welcome to Pain, Bugs, Bots & Betrayal

👾 Episode Summary:

Aden (with reluctant co-host Ben) takes you on a gloriously chaotic deep-dive into Helldivers 2, now available on Xbox. If you’re new to the game, buckle up: this is democracy enforced via orbital laser, flamethrower accidents, and accidental (or not-so-accidental) team kills.

Topics covered:

• 🎮 Xbox launch: Crossplay, updates, and why Xbox players are in for a rude awakening
• 🔥 The 10 brutality-tier difficulty levels
• 🐛 Enemy factions: Terminids, Automatons, and those weird-ass Illuminate
• 💀 The bots are a whole different game. And yes, they’ll destroy you
• ⚙️ Loadouts: Armor types, weapons, grenades, stratagems, and how to f**k up with all of them
• 😵‍💫 Friendly fire, betrayal, and why Aden shoots Ben off cliffs for fun
• 🧠 Super Earth propaganda: managed democracy at its dumbest and finest
• 🧢 PSN review bomb cape saga and Arrowhead’s perfect response
• 🎮 Deep Rock Galactic comparisons & upcoming “Deep Dive” update
• 🧨 Chaos stories, tips, frustrations, and how NOT to use the railgun

🎙️ Co-Host Highlights:

• Ben plays RuneScape during recording
• Aden constantly “accidentally” kills Ben
• Both scream “GET IN THE POD” while on fire
• The episode was meant to follow a script. It did not.

🎧 Listen if you like:

• Screaming at friends while laughing
• Friendly fire stories
• Dumb war games with smart satire
• Watching Xbox players slowly descend into Helldivers madness

🪖 FOR SUPER FKING EARTH.**

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Chapters

• 0:00 The Start of Democracy
• 5:15 Terminids
• 11:33 The Automatons
• 13:58 The Illuninates
• 14:32 Ben is Hopeless
• 15:19 Deep Rock Galactic
• 17:13 Friendly Fire
• 17:45 Federation of Super Earth
• 19:12 Maps and Objectives
• 20:46 Helldiver Community
• 23:05 Helldiver Community Fights Back
• 23:47 Welcome Xbox Players
• 27:17 Strategems
• 33:25 Helldiver Armour
• 36:08 Helldiver Weapons
• 41:46 Show Outro

Transcript

Aden: 0:45

Welcome back, you beautiful Digital degenerates. It's your girl, Aden, and I'm joined by that trigger-happy twat, Ben, who you haven't had on the show before. He doesn't want to be here, but I dragged him along. Hello, Ben. 

Ben: 1:01

Hello, Hello, it's true, I didn't want to be here, but here I am. 

Aden: 1:05

We've been trying to record for two weeks, but you've been dodging

Ben: 1:07

been busy, what can I say? 

Aden: 1:09

Lies and bullshit. Today we're dragging you kicking and screaming into the absurd, brutal clusterfuck that is Helldivers 2.You beautiful Digital G-generates. It's your girl, Aiden, and I'm joined by that 2. Which is now finally arriving on Xbox, because apparently Microsoft just realised democracy needs to be violently enforced in 4K. 

Ben: 1:24

That's right, while PlayStation and PC players have been knee-deep in bug guts over the last few years, and robot shrapnel, Xbox folks have been politely waiting their turn, like it's a fucking queue for galactic war crimes. But your time has come, Xbox. Welcome. 

Aden: 1:41

And the Xbox launch date was a couple of days ago, 26th of August. Crossplay is there. We haven't seen any Xbox players, though, have we, Ben? 

Ben: 1:51

We haven't, no, we were playing the last few days, but we haven't seen anybody yet. 

Aden: 1:55

That's because they're all climbing the difficulty ladder, aren't they? We'll get 

Ben: 1:59

That 

Aden: 1:59

onto that 

Ben: 1:59

We did, the Halo, eh, I didn't want 

Aden: 1:59

in 

Ben: 1:59

to be here, but here I am. I've been busy, 

Aden: 1:59

a 

Ben: 1:59

what can I say? That's right, while PlayStation and PC players have been knee-deep in bug guts over the last few years, and

Aden: 2:00

second. And... Yeah, we got the, um... Warbond. 

Ben: 2:04

Welcome. We haven't, no, we were playing the last few days, but we haven't seen anybody yet. That's We did, the Halo 

Aden: 2:05

The Halo Warbond. 

Ben: 2:06

special, yeah, legendary Halo Warbond 

Aden: 2:08

Yes. 

Ben: 2:08

that came with the release, we'll get onto that as well. I'm assuming Xbox players got all of that straight from launch. 

Aden: 2:14

I would hope they at least got that, because that was fucking expensive. 

Ben: 2:17

That's right. 

Aden: 2:18

Considering how it 

Ben: 2:19

Yes, 

Aden: 2:19

was. yes. On to the game itself. And some difficulty levels. Talk about that. 

Ben: 2:27

I mean, the game itself has 10 difficulty levels, which is probably why we're not seeing the Xbox players just yet, but they start at level 1, and then they have to go through all the levels by completing each difficulty level. So there's not 3, there's not 5, 10, can you believe it? And you can't just skip straight to the big one, you have to earn your way up the ladder, like a broke intern at a corporate death cult. 

Aden: 2:52

And level 1 is trivial. But I remember when we first played it, it didn't seem that trivial. 

Ben: 2:58

It didn't, 

Aden: 2:58

Because 

Ben: 2:58

no. 

Aden: 2:59

I 

Ben: 2:59

But, 

Aden: 2:59

died in the tutorial a 

Ben: 3:01

yeah, 

Aden: 3:01

couple 

Ben: 3:02

me 

Aden: 3:02

of 

Ben: 3:02

too. 

Aden: 3:02

times, getting shot by the, uh, the sentry. Um... by... Level 5. That's where the Bile... I think that's where the Bile Titans come in. I think it's level 5. Um...

Ben: 3:13

Yeah, hard, I think, isn't it, at that 

Aden: 3:14

Yeah. 

Ben: 3:14

point. 

Aden: 3:15

And... You think that they're tough enemies. Which they are, to be fair. But I think the damage goes up as well as you climb the difficulty ladder. So you're basically not playing anymore once you're at level 10. Especially with the Predator Strain that we just did. Um... We got absolutely fucked. We used all of Reinforcement drops. Very quickly. 

Ben: 3:35

Yeah, before we'd even started actually doing the objectives. 

Aden: 3:38

Yes. Yes, we did. Because in level 10, you also have mega nests. 

Ben: 3:44

You do, which is a nightmare. Especially when you drop us straight into the middle of them. 

Aden: 3:48

Oh. There's no better way to start a game than right in the middle of the shit. Is there? 

Ben: 3:53

I'm getting fucked. 

Aden: 3:55

So I know a lot of players, what they tend to do What they'll do is they'll quickly climb the rankings. And then we'll end up with, like, a level 30 or 40... Jumper with us. Who are definitely not ready for a level 10. 

Ben: 4:08

They're not, no. And you can 

Aden: 4:09

Yeah, 

Ben: 4:09

tell that. 

Aden: 4:10

they're just there for the samples. 

Ben: 4:12

Which, in hindsight, you know, they should really just be doing level 5s. 

Aden: 4:16

Yeah, I mean, if you want samples up to about a 8, is that if that's all you're going to do. But if you're actually going to do a level 10, you have to be with a team. And if you do want samples, you have to go with your team, usually to get them. Because, otherwise You will die on the other side of the map where everyone else will 

Ben: 4:33

I 

Aden: 4:34

be. 

Ben: 4:34

don't know what you mean. 

Aden: 4:35

And we will not help... We will not help you go get them if you've done that. 

Ben: 4:39

I have to admit, I was that player. I used to be a sample collector, and I used to leave the team and venture off inevitably die, and then someone would have to revive me, and then I'd be all the way over the other side of the map, and everyone would be laughing at me

Aden: 4:54

That's because you had light armor at the time. Now... You've joined the heavy armor brigade. 

Ben: 5:00

be laughing at me while I was crying. That's because all we do is level 10s, and you know, if you're doing level 10 without heavy or at least medium armor, you're 

Aden: 5:06

Level 10 with 

Ben: 5:07

in for a bad time. 

Aden: 5:08

the eruptor. 

Ben: 5:09

Yes, which I'm assuming we'll talk about weapons in a little while, why try anything else when you have that? 

Aden: 5:15

So

Aden: 5:15

, well, very briefly. Uh... There are three factions to fight. Um... We do bugs majority of the time. We are... Um... What do they call them? What do they call 

Ben: 5:28

Terminids. 

Aden: 5:28

us? No, 

Ben: 5:28

T. 

Aden: 5:29

no. What do they call the, um... The bug... 

Ben: 5:32

Idiots. 

Aden: 5:33

Yeah. Yeah. The hell divers only do bugs, mostly. There's a name for them. Um... But anyway. Yeah, we mostly do bugs. Um... We can... We do bots. I think we do... Up to level 8 bots. I have done a couple of 10s, but it's just... It... It makes you cry. Bots. There's like 

Ben: 5:53

It 

Aden: 5:53

a...

Ben: 5:53

does. In fact, it's been so long that I can't actually remember how bad they are, but I don't want to. I just have vivid memories of terrible 

Aden: 6:01

Yeah, 

Ben: 6:01

times. 

Aden: 6:02

yeah. While you're skipping along happy doing bugs, suddenly you do bots. And you just get absolutely... 

Ruined. They just... Because they're so accurate as well. 

Ben: 6:12

You do. Well, they can shoot back, so they can shoot you from distance. And if you're not prepared, and changing your setup around, then, yeah, you're in for a bad time. 

Aden: 6:21

Yep. And you've got things like hulks, which... Generally, you can one-shot with the... With... With the recoilers. But you have a very small window to shoot them in with it. Um... So they're a 

Ben: 6:34

You 

Aden: 6:34

lot 

Ben: 6:34

do. 

Aden: 6:34

harder to kill than a... Than a bile titan. 

Ben: 6:38

Yes, which are much bigger and easier to hit. 

Aden: 6:41

Yes. But anyway. On to the terminids. Which... Which... Are the bugs, like you said. And... So this is what you get. You get... The scavengers. They're the little tiny ones, aren't they? They're the annoying... Bastards. 

Ben: 6:55

Yes, the ones that always call in 

Aden: 6:57

Yeah. Yeah, 

Ben: 6:57

for backup. 

Aden: 6:58

because they're... They're... A lot of them, they're fast little shits. And they're like, um... Swarming you like a seagull on a chip van. 

Ben: 7:05

It's so true. It's so true. There's never one of them as well. There's multiple, and you're just trying to keep your eye on them while the bigger bits come to you. 

Aden: 7:12

The Warriors... they the warriors? 

Ben: 7:14

Yeah, the Warriors are the ones with the shield face. So the Warriors, they're a bit beefier. They've got a shield for a head, which makes them particularly tanky. So you have to really explode them to, or do damage from behind to be able to kill them easily. have big attitude problems, and they just run at you. And when they do get to you, if you don't get to them first, they just tear you apart. 

Aden: 7:37

And then there are Hunters. 

Ben: 7:39

Yes, hunters are an absolute nightmare. Again, there's never normally one of them. There's always multiple, and they're really quick. They flank you. They jump around. They're small, so they're difficult to hit. 

Aden: 7:49

They're the worst, I think. I think they're the worst enemy, especially on Predator Strain, because they're much faster. 

Ben: 7:55

And they can go invisible. 

Aden: 7:56

Yeah, yep, that too. Warriors on Predator Strain as well are, ah. then, they're our favourite, the Stalkers. 

Ben: 8:03

yeah, that's one word for them, favorite. things are just ninjas. You can't see them coming. They pop out of nowhere, like your tax bills. They just come up and completely ruin your day. 

Aden: 8:13

Yeah, because they go, they have their own lair, so they're not like a normal spawning, bug, they have their own lair, so you don't know where they come from, and they can eventually get to you from across the map, at some point. 

Ben: 8:26

They do. You can normally hear. There's a sound that they play just before you can hear them coming. But that doesn't mean you know where they're coming from, because they're normally invisible when they make that noise. 

Aden: 8:36

because you had a shit computer, 

Ben: 8:39

I did. 

Aden: 8:40

and you couldn't see the silhouette of them, 

Ben: 8:42

I couldn't.No . So until they'd hit me first, and they'd broken their invisibility, I had no idea where they were. 

Aden: 8:48

yep, but now you've got a super upgraded 5080 RTX. 

Ben: 8:53

Yes. Yeah. In fact, there's lots of visuals that I couldn't see, I realized, until I got this. 

Aden: 8:58

Yep, like the mortars, the bug spewers spewing shit out their ass, 

Ben: 9:04

The meteors, the gas clouds. Yeah. There was a lot that I had disabled, because otherwise I couldn't run the game. So, 

Aden: 9:11

and like I said, you know, the bile spewers, they, they shoot acid out their and sometimes out that they're in the mouth, they're in their mouth. So basically, both

Ben: 9:19

yeah. 

Aden: 9:19

It's 

Ben: 9:19

Yeah. 

Aden: 9:19

like, 

Ben: 9:19

They're pretty ill. 

Aden: 9:20

yeah, yeah, it's like having a vindaloo curry. 

Ben: 9:24

Then you've got the big, big Bile Titans. 

Aden: 9:26

yep, that's they're slow, and they're quite relatively easy to kill if you have a launcher, 

Ben: 9:35

Yes. We found the Recoil-less rifle works best against Bile Titans, all of the ones that have got heavy armor. 

Aden: 9:42

yeah, but it's when they land on That's the thing with bile titans, is that you don't because the game has its fair share of glitches, um, you kind of get like a breakdancing bile titan, 

Ben: 9:54

You do. You shoot it, and it can land anywhere. Its legs flail about, and...

Aden: 9:59

And all that has to hit you is the tip of its legs and instant death. 

Ben: 10:03

I'm sure there's some clips of us doing that somewhere. 

Aden: 10:05

Oh, plenty of clips of, of that. Fucking bile chargers. I don't think we've seen a normal charger for a long time. 

Ben: 10:13

No. 

Aden: 10:14

Because we, what we tend to see are the armored chargers, because we do level 10, and the most spore spewing chargers. 

Ben: 10:22

It's so irritating. 

Aden: 10:24

And then the impaler, of course. 

Ben: 10:26

The impaler digs into the ground, and little tentacles come up and ruin your day from all around you. 

Aden: 10:32

Yeah. They basically do. They slap, one 

Ben: 10:35

They 

Aden: 10:35

slap me 

Ben: 10:36

just 

Aden: 10:36

across them, and 

Ben: 10:36

dick 

Aden: 10:36

that's 

Ben: 10:36

you about, 

Aden: 10:37

fucking 

Ben: 10:37

and...

Aden: 10:37

horrible. and then, there's the lovely brood commander. 

Ben: 10:42

Brood Commanders, as I learnt actually the other day from you, that they can actually call in a bug breach and back up as well on their death, which I actually hadn't realised, but they are resilient bastards, they take a lot of bullets to kill, and they're always travelling with a pack. 

Aden: 10:58

if you knock their head that doesn't kill them. 

Ben: 11:00

No. 

Aden: 11:01

They, they 

Ben: 11:01

No, they 

Aden: 11:02

still 

Ben: 11:02

just 

Aden: 11:02

have 

Ben: 11:02

run 

Aden: 11:02

a 

Ben: 11:02

at 

Aden: 11:02

little 

Ben: 11:02

you. 

Aden: 11:02

bit of life left, and they have enough life that they can kill you. And if you're far away as I saw, I did not know this, but a headless broodmother can call in a- Why do we call them broodmothers? They were called that initially, weren't they? 

Ben: 11:15

They were. I don't know where Brood Commanders has actually come. 

Aden: 11:18

Well, it said the other day that, um, you were killed by an alpha commander. 

Ben: 11:23

Yes, which I think is like the, um, I guess the leader of the Brood Mothers, 

Aden: 11:27

No, I don't know. But 

Ben: 11:28

Alpha. 

Aden: 11:29

anyway, they're just all- They're all cunts. 

Ben: 11:31

They are. It's true. There's no safe 

Ben: 11:33

place. 

Aden: 11:34

and then there's the automatons. 

Ben: 11:37

Yes, the automatons are heavily armoured fuck you machines, basically. 

Aden: 11:42

they are. Um, while the troopers are shit, they have got amazing aim. 

Like, fire from the hip, amazing 

Ben: 11:53

It's like 

Aden: 11:53

aim. 

Ben: 11:53

playing a different game, isn't it? When you're against 

Aden: 11:55

it 

Ben: 11:55

them. 

Aden: 11:55

is, yeah, it is, it just is, uh, you know, you've got the, the hulks, devastators, which I think are the- The hulks now have jetpacks, which is another fuckery of it. 

factory striders, again, just, uh, it just, it's like Star Wars. It's like going into Battlefront 2 just on extremely hard, because you've got AT&T's, um, flying 

Ben: 12:20

Y. 

Aden: 12:20

shit. Just, it just, it's just a shit show. So if you want to die and want to cry and really want to hate the game, play bots. That's what I say. 

Ben: 12:29

Yeah. Half the weapons that you want to use on bugs are just completely ineffective on bots. 

Aden: 12:36

pretty much, um, because if, our favorite, the Eruptor, can one-shot most of the bots, but it's too slow to go against bots. You need something with fast firepower. Again, none of them have enough in their mags, because Arrow Studios are just, they just fucking hate people, and putting a lot of ammo in mags. 

Ben: 12:57

They barely give you enough. is true. It's true. There's no safe place. Yes, the automatons are heavily They have. Yeah. It's like playing a different game, isn't it? When you're against Yeah. Yeah. Half the weapons that you want to use on bugs are just completely 

Aden: 12:58

No, 

Ben: 12:58

ineffective on They'd barely give you enough, fuck you machines

Aden: 12:58

like, you'd think that everything would have an extended magazine, 

Ben: 13:02

didn't they? Yeah, you would. You would. Sorry, yeah. But not every gun can be customised. 

Aden: 13:08

as we 

Ben: 13:08

And, 

Aden: 13:08

found 

Ben: 13:08

um, 

Aden: 13:08

out with the Halo one. 

Ben: 13:10

and as, yeah, we bought this Warbond and thinking that this gun can get, definitely get better. Uh, and you go to customise it and you can't. So, and on top of that, not every gun can be customised the same way. So you can't always add the same attachments to them, it just means that automatons can be a bad time until you've trialled an error and found the best weapons for the, uh, for the job. 

Aden: 13:32

Yes, I cannot wait for Xbox players to go from bugs to bots, because they will get absolutely fucked. 

Ben: 13:42

They will. I mean, the lower end bots are still bad, but the higher end are just, if you switch from a level eight onwards, bugs to a level eight bots, it's just, it's, like I say, it's, it's a different game. 

Aden: 13:53

It is, um, and they'll find out the hard way, how difficult it really is. 

Ben: 13:58

They will. 

Aden: 13:59

then there's the third class, which I really don't like them, so we've, I think we've only played them a handful of times. Not because they're difficult. They're not difficult at all. They just, they don't seem to fit. 

Ben: 14:13

the Illuminate. 

Aden: 14:14

Yeah. 

Ben: 14:15

they have all sorts of alien powers that the other twos just don't have. So I see what you mean. It doesn't really fit with the rest of the factions. but without paying Helldivers one, I am a bit, well, not up to date on the lore of, of them and where they've come from and the history of them. 

Aden: 14:32

if any of you are wondering, yes, Ben does play RuneScape in the background. 

Ben: 14:36

I do. Can you hear the clicking? 

Aden: 14:37

Of course I can. That's, that's why I'm saying you're playing RuneScape in the background. Don't worry, the 

Ben: 14:41

Apologies. 

Aden: 14:41

clicking will, will disappear off the main show, but um, if you wonder why he doesn't talk sometimes. First of all, you can't, he's the most useless person in the world when it comes to this. Um, I always 

Ben: 14:52

It's 

Aden: 14:52

say 

Ben: 14:52

true. 

Aden: 14:52

that if you ever need him in an emergency, he'd probably show up, but any other time, it could be like three weeks away and he'd be like, oh, hello, I've been busy for the last three weeks. 

Ben: 15:02

Yes. I'm sorry. I just, I just go incognito. I just go hidden. 

Aden: 15:05

Yes, 

Ben: 15:06

Um, 

Aden: 15:06

yes he 

Ben: 15:06

and, 

Aden: 15:06

does. 

Ben: 15:07

and, and emerge with no energy because it's, it's been a busy time. That's always my excuse. 

Aden: 15:12

yeah, considering no kids and everything, yeah. 

Arsehole. 

Aden: 15:20

so we used to play Deep Rock. Oh, we're just going off fucking script here. We had a script and, we haven't really 

Ben: 15:27

We're 

Aden: 15:27

followed it, 

Ben: 15:27

putting it 

Aden: 15:27

to 

Ben: 15:27

in the 

Aden: 15:27

be 

Ben: 15:27

bin. 

Aden: 15:28

fair, yeah. cause Ben was like, I don't feel comfortable. I was like, I'll get you a script and then it's all gone to we used to play Deep Rock Galactic a lot. It was our favourite go-to game and we played it from day of release for, what, three or four years? 

Ben: 15:41

Yeah. I've gone as how many hours we put into that, but a lot

Aden: 15:45

Yes. Like, we've definitely put more into Helldivers now, but had put in a lot of ours. and that was our go-to game. Um, and Helldivers 2 definitely takes a lot from that game

Ben: 15:57

it does, which is actually what we're seeing with the latest update that's coming on september the i think

Aden: 16:03

Considering it's called Deep Dive. 

Ben: 16:05

exactly it's called deep dive they're adding um an underground sort of tunnel network of of hives and hive minds definitely taken from deep rock in a lot of a lot of aspects i

Aden: 16:16

Yeah, and a lot of the game is, I mean, you know, you can clearly tell a lot of the things we've gone against, 

Ben: 16:22

long

devastating yeah

Aden: 16:24

Devastator. Devastator's clearly like a or slightly above a charger, kind of, uh, thing. And then you've got the Dreadnoughts. 

Ben: 16:30

the dreadnoughts the glyphid dreadnoughts 

Aden: 16:32

Yeah, the Glyfford

Ben: 16:32

yeah different types

Aden: 16:34

are something that one day, when they introduce them to Helldivers, people will cry. Because they are difficult to kill. 

Ben: 16:41

they are they are and it takes the team to kill them as well and 

Aden: 16:44

Yeah. 

Ben: 16:45

the glyphid exploders that run at you and tick tock and explode in your face and blow half the map up with but yes they do take a lot from it

Aden: 17:13

So basically, Friendly Fire, I guess, is, uh, is on. There's no turning it off. 

Ben: 17:20

don't talk to me about friendly 

Aden: 17:21

Yeah. 

Ben: 17:21

fire you you don't get the right to talk about that this guy shoots me every single game without fail and and then hell divers call it accidental that's what makes me laugh

Aden: 17:31

It is accidental. You just get in the way of my gun. It just happens that I'd be pointing at the exact location where you're at, at the time when there are no bugs next to you. 

Ben: 17:39

that's convenient isn't it yeah that's um oh dear

Aden: 17:44

Every game. 

Ben: 17:45

do

Ben: 17:45

you want to talk a about about super and what super earth is

Aden: 17:49

Well, as you brought it up, you can. 

Ben: 17:51

super earth is the part that you're trying to from surrounding planets that have the either the bugs the bots or the illuminate factions on um

and they have an excellent video at the beginning of the game when you load uh that explains super earth and how all the people with their the bugs are inhabited slowly and inhabited and hell divers are the force that that you are that's trying to push them back and stop them from from breaking onto the

Aden: 18:15

and I think we had to do it, we had to defend Super Earth which is where we were forced to play the Illuminates, because they had invaded Earth. 

Ben: 18:25

yes yeah they had and that's when i think we actually the first time we'd played them because we'd never done it before but

Aden: 18:30

they're easy, to be fair. We, we did them on a level 10. They're not difficult. they're just weird. They're just like, they, they don't feel like the right kind of enemy for Helldivers. While the Terminids kind of feel like, you're run of the mill, I feel like playing good game and actually trying to finish a Bots is, I don't feel like playing a good game. I feel like getting absolutely destroyed

Ben: 18:52

true

Aden: 18:53

and not finishing, pretty much. You have to have a very good coordinated team of four people. While as, on Bugs, you can two people who are very well coordinated and not care too much about the other two, as long as they're doing something. But, Bots, all four people have to work together, because

Ben: 19:10

you're fucked

Aden: 19:11

yes. 

Aden: 19:12

And, in terms of other things you have to do on when you're on your ship, you've got a mission station, and that's where you go to choose your difficulty level, choose the mission you want, and every main mission is comprised of three sub-missions, and they can be like a capture the flag, a eradicate, a bunch of them, 

ICBM, oil, you have, when you're on your ship, you've got a mission station, and that's where you go to choose your difficulty level, choose the mission you want, and every main mission is comprised of three sub-missions, a When you're on your ship, you've got a mission station, and that's where you go to choose your difficulty level, choose the mission you And those are your main objectives, so there are always three of them, you could either jump on someone else's game in that, where you can see other people's games, if they've called in an SOS, because that's something you can do, is if you're really in the shit, you can throw an SOS beacon, and divers will always be happy to help, they'll come help you out. you've got the three main missions, and then in each mission, you've got four or five, Secondary objectives, which include, Spore

Ben: 20:04

fourth use shrieking less lidar stations

Aden: 20:07

which are flying ones. I don't think we talked about them, and they're, they're another annoyance that you need, you need a machine gun to take them down. Um, yep, LiDAR stations, oh, and also, of course, the, the, the, the propaganda ones that you have to take on, Super Earth is 100% propaganda-free, apparently. 

Ben: 20:25

of course it is

Aden: 20:26

Yes, and they didn't start this war on everyone. 

Ben: 20:29

no no no that's you can't have that advertising it

Aden: 20:34

and it is managed democracy. Because 

Ben: 20:36

because freedom

Aden: 20:37

freedom means following orders. 

Ben: 20:39

this game is satire with a shotgun it knows 

Aden: 20:42

Yes. 

Ben: 20:42

exactly what it's doing 

Aden: 20:43

Mm, 

Ben: 20:43

doesn't it

Aden: 20:44

it does. 

Aden: 20:46

one of of the best bits about the Helldiver community, as such, is, it's not toxic. I've found that, you know, if you kill each other by accident, it's done. You know, it happens, you shoot someone, they might shoot you and then you're done. You know, there's no bitching, there's no arguing, there's no crying. I think it's just, I think that the Helldiver community itself is actually very good, and everyone just wants to enjoy the game. 

Ben: 21:16

They do. That's quite clear, and they've got a good Discord as well that's very informative and supportive, and you can find groups on there, and everyone's very vocal, and it just seems like a nice place to be, but from what we've experienced, unless it gets personal, the team killing and bits and

Aden: 21:34

I've been a few times where you've wanted to quit the

Ben: 21:38

I have had a few. In fact, I have all went forward a few times, I think, because of you, but disregarding that. Yes, then, yeah, it's a very nice community to be in, and everyone's very friendly and supportive, so it's nice. 

Aden: 21:51

Yeah, you know, apart from the level 20 sample collectors on level 10 hell dives, everyone else, 

Ben: 21:58

Hmm. 

Aden: 21:58

you know, if you want to collect samples, all you have to say is, I want to collect samples, and people will help you, will happily help you. Especially if they drop in on your game. That's the thing, is that if you put an SOS and they drop in on your game, you tell them what you're doing, they'll, they'll always help you. but if you drop in on my fucking game and start collecting samples, I will shoot you. 

Ben: 22:15

We'll kick you. 

Aden: 22:16

Yes. No, shoot you. And then kick you. 

Ben: 22:18

And then kick you, okay, and then 

Aden: 22:19

Yes. 

Ben: 22:19

kick you, yeah. 

Aden: 22:20

Well, if you tell me, I'm, I might be okay with it, but, uh, we don't need samples because we have too much of everything. 

Ben: 22:26

We do. When you get to a certain level, normally around level 90 to 100, 

Aden: 22:31

Mm, 

Ben: 22:32

you've collected enough samples generally to unlock everything in the stratagem list and everything in the ship modules 

Aden: 22:37

yep. 

Ben: 22:38

to upgrade your stratagems. 

Aden: 22:39

Until they introduce something new, fuck knows when. I can't remember the last time I think they put 

Ben: 22:45

No. 

Aden: 22:45

something new in probably about four or five months ago where we needed samples again. 

Ben: 22:51

Yeah, but we're quickly got back up to full again. 

Aden: 22:53

but then everyone is collecting samples at that point, you know. 

Ben: 22:56

They are, yeah, and they cap quite low, don't they? So you're always reaching the maximum limit quite quickly. 

Aden: 23:03

it's not a big deal. 

Aden: 23:06

as we're talking about the there was the time where PlayStation decided it was a good idea that you had to have a PSN account, uh, on PC. 

Ben: 23:17

Yes, they did, and the internet responded with a grace of a kicked hornet's nest, really. The Steam reviews nosedived harder than a supply pod on your skull. It was a shit show. 

Aden: 23:28

the funny thing is, is that Arrowhead, you know, you know, they're a good studio because they, they made a cape, didn't they? That 

Ben: 23:35

They 

Aden: 23:36

had 

Ben: 23:36

did. 

Aden: 23:36

just 

Ben: 23:36

They 

Aden: 23:37

basically a 

Ben: 23:37

did. 

Aden: 23:37

line red lines going underneath. And when you compare it to the review bomb, that cape goes hand in hand with it. 

Ben: 23:43

It's quite 

Aden: 23:44

is. Yeah, 

Ben: 23:44

a 

Aden: 23:44

it 

Ben: 23:44

funny. 

Aden: 23:45

is. It's, it's

Aden: 23:48

I don't know how Xbox have managed to this game on Xbox, considering it is a PlayStation, I want to say exclusive, because it a lot of PlayStation exclusives that's eventually come to PC, but that's it, they stop at PC. So, I think this is actually the first one that's going on to Xbox. 

Ben: 24:04

It was only originally released on PlayStation and PC, 

Aden: 24:07

Yeah, 

Ben: 24:07

yeah. 

Aden: 24:07

so I think it's, 

Ben: 24:08

I think you're good that they're finally here, though. And welcome 

Aden: 24:11

It is, yes, 

Ben: 24:12

to 

Aden: 24:12

this is, 

Ben: 24:13

a world of 

Aden: 24:13

this is, 

Ben: 24:13

pain. 

Aden: 24:14

this is not Call of Duty, where you get shot on by a rainbow unicorn. 

Ben: 24:18

No, this is, I'll say, somewhat realistic. Obviously, it's a fantasy game, so it's not that realistic. like you say, it's not Call of Duty, where what was once a good war game is now, 

Aden: 24:29

We don't play it anymore. 

Ben: 24:31

I don't even know what to call 

Aden: 24:32

Yeah, 

Ben: 24:32

it now, to 

Aden: 24:33

yeah, 

Ben: 24:33

be 

Aden: 24:33

because 

Ben: 24:33

honest. 

Aden: 24:33

I from what I they're not going to let you carry across to Black Ops 7, because it's gotten so stupid. 

Ben: 24:41

Yes, yes. Although I did hear that Black Ops 7 has got jetpacks or wall riding or something, again, where you're so futuristic. And a lot of the original Call of Duty players, at least from when I used to play, don't enjoy that. So we'll see how well that does, especially with the big other release that's come in later this year. Battlefield 6. 

Aden: 25:00

might be the chance, because Battlefield fucked up last time, they actually might be able to do it this time. 

If, well, you know, frankly, I'm only going to play Call of Duty because it's free on Xbox. I think you as well, you don't think you bought it this time. It's the first time you've never bought it. 

Ben: 25:14

No, I know. It's probably, yeah, the first year I haven't bought it. And thankfully it was free on Game Pass, but I won't be buying Black Ops 7. And I will be spending that money on Battlefield 6, almost undoubtedly. 

Aden: 25:27

Anyway, we have digressed. So, 

Ben: 25:30

We have, as normal. 

Aden: 25:31

and here's the thing. Um, you know, the Xbox players right now are probably you're climbing the ladder slow, you're in for a shock once you get up to the higher tiers. And it will happen, because I think the jumps are okay until you go from, 7, 8, 9, 10. They just, something happens between those ones, especially between 8 and 9. 

Ben: 25:55

Yeah, 9 is a big jump from 8. 

Aden: 25:57

I think 9 is the hardest, personally, 

Ben: 26:00

Yeah, we've 

Aden: 26:00

yeah. 

Ben: 26:00

found it to be harder than 10, haven't we, a lot 

Aden: 26:02

Because 

Ben: 26:02

of the 

Aden: 26:02

there's 

Ben: 26:02

time? 

Aden: 26:03

no Meganest in 9. 

Ben: 26:04

No, but you get lots more smaller enemies. So I think in 10 they focus more on clumping big enemies together, which there's less of them. But when you get very overwhelmed on 9 because they just throw so many spawns at you, it's difficult. 

Aden: 26:20

we have 12 Bile Titans, though, the other 14, something really stupid. 

Ben: 26:24

We did. We did. There's definitely a cliff of that somewhere. Because I remember struggling, crying for help, looking across and seeing you in the exact same 

Aden: 26:33

Yeah, 

Ben: 26:33

situation. 

Aden: 26:33

as 

Ben: 26:33

So, 

Aden: 26:33

they all chased us, oh god, that was bad. 

Ben: 26:36

But yes, Xbox players, looks like you're going to get all the content from day one, actually. all the factions, all the updates, all bug spots and misery included. So enjoy that. Crossplay, obviously, is enabled as well. you can die with strangers on different platforms, or friends on different platforms, for that matter. You can play solo if you want. But there are no solo heroes here. Especially when you get to the higher levels. You're going to need solid teamwork. It demands it. 

Aden: 27:00

I don't think I've ever played the game solo, to be fair. 

Ben: 27:03

I don't think I ever have unless I was doing maybe in the early days when we were sample collecting. But I don't think it's not. It's not really that kind of game. 

Aden: 27:12

No, it's not. You have to play, and it's so much better when you play with people, you know, because you can kill them whenever you want. 

Ben: 27:17

Yes. 

Ben: 27:17

Moving on. So the stratagems that you... You'll definitely enjoy the stratagems. There's a whole host of them, which we'll get onto in a little while. They're basically mid-mission cheat codes that give you a whole host of life. And they'll let you carry on playing. Or they'll kill your whole team. 

Aden: 27:33

Oh yeah, 

Ben: 27:33

One or 

Aden: 27:33

yeah. 

Ben: 27:34

the other. 

Aden: 27:34

Happened actually just now, didn't 

Ben: 27:35

did. 

Aden: 27:35

it? 

Ben: 27:36

It did. 

Aden: 27:37

Where the ship landed on the other guy. He had a stratagem in his hand, and he dropped it. Because that's another thing. If you have anything in your hand, grenade, stratagem, whatever it is, if you're holding it at the time. And let's say I walk up to Ben as a joke, which I've done a few times. And...

Ben: 27:56

Just a few. 

Aden: 27:57

Yeah, and mellied him, that knocks him over, and he's been holding a napalm, and I know for a fact, because there was nothing around that, he's holding that on purpose, waiting for me to knock him down. 

Ben: 28:07

I don't know what you mean. It's a deterrent. To try. But it never works. And you still hit me anyway. 

Aden: 28:13

It never works, and then we can't get in the ship because everything's on fire. 

Ben: 28:18

Yeah. And then the ship departs. And then half of the team are dead. And everyone's angry. 

Aden: 28:22

Yeah, but then we still carry on and we laugh it off, I think what gets you really angry is you're probably losing in RuneScape at that time, and then you suddenly get blown up and then you, you lose your shit, which is quite, it's quite amusing though when you lose your shit, because you're quite a calm person most of the time. 

Ben: 28:37

I am. I am. It takes a lot. But 

Aden: 28:38

It, 

Ben: 28:39

the patience level is very high until it's 

Aden: 28:41

yeah, 

Ben: 28:41

not. And then it's very short. 

Aden: 28:43

yeah. 

Ben: 28:43

And yeah. I lose my shit. And that's when Alt-F4 happens. Or I just go very quiet. 

Aden: 28:49

I think the worst one is called a duty for you, I've heard you lose your shit so many times in that game. 

Ben: 28:54

Over the years, I've broken keyboards, controllers, and 

Aden: 28:57

Desks. 

Ben: 28:57

yeah. Desks. Oh, whole desks. Yeah. I have. This is true. 

Aden: 29:01

Yes, I do remember that, that was, 

Ben: 29:02

Shame to 

Aden: 29:03

oh, 

Ben: 29:03

admit. 

Aden: 29:03

that was 

Ben: 29:03

But 

Aden: 29:03

so funny when you broke your desk. 

Ben: 29:05

I'm a new person now. New PC. No peripherals getting damaged here. 

Aden: 29:10

No, because you know how fucking expensive they are now, you don't have a cheap 

Ben: 29:12

Exactly. 

Aden: 29:13

keyboard anymore, or a cheap mouse, 

Ben: 29:16

No. 

Aden: 29:16

or a cheap screen. Nothing is cheap around you anymore. 

Ben: 29:18

No. So the only place left to take my anger out on is you in 

Aden: 29:22

Yeah, 

Ben: 29:22

the game. 

Aden: 29:22

exactly. 

Ben: 29:22

So I just try and get my own back. 

Aden: 29:24

mean, you could just walk over to your wife's computer and slam that. 

Ben: 29:27

Yeah, this stat is not worth the, uh, the backlash. 

Aden: 29:30

right, so the stratagems, uh, we have there are a lot, so, uh, let's just, uh, quickly, I'm not going to talk about each one, because we'll be here forever, because there are a lot of them. Uh, but some the resupply, that's the main one, that's for everyone, um, calls in generally, you do get a blue light that tells you where it's going to land, but it has obviously killed us before. It's landed on us before, because we lose track of where it is when we're being surrounded. So that happens. Reinforce. 

Ben: 29:58

Yes. 

Aden: 30:00

you have to choose where to land, and the amount of people that's landed on my head, be it accidentally 

Ben: 30:05

Yes. 

Aden: 30:05

or on purpose, that's another one. 

Ben: 30:07

You get a small window, don't you, where you can steer the pod from when they've called you in to when you land, you can, I won't say deliberately, but you could manipulate your landing so that you're on somebody else. 

Aden: 30:18

Yes, yes, um, we also try well, I think up to level eight, you can land on a Bile Titan and one hit them with a Drop Pod, which is quite useful. 

Ben: 30:27

You can. It is very helpful, actually, and sometimes

Aden: 30:29

level ten, you cannot do that, you have to have at least which is annoying, because what generally happens is you land in the middle of the Bile Titan, and then he flicks you with his leg, and then you die, and then you have to come back in again. 

Ben: 30:40

He does. You have a whole host of sentries as well, so autocannon, mortar, um, there's a gatling sentry and a rocket sentry as well, whic are all very

Aden: 30:49

Only for one type of mission that we do, though. I mean, they are useful on the other missions, but they're generally just useful on missions that you really don't need to do anything, you just sit there and watch them fire. 

Ben: 30:58

yes, where you're defending a position or defending, 

Aden: 31:00

Yeah. 

Ben: 31:00

uh, something, they're very, very helpful

Aden: 31:02

so generally, we don't take sentries, we hope that the other people do. 

Ben: 31:07

We do

Aden: 31:08

yes, we take the hardcore stratagems. We the lasers, the eagles, and, of course, 

Ben: 31:15

Barrages. 

Aden: 31:16

Uh, and, of course, the napalm, yes. 

Ben: 31:16

The napalm barrage, the old favourite. 

Aden: 31:18

yep. Anything that can basically kill the team, we take it. 

Ben: 31:20

We do. We do. 

Aden: 31:22

because when you're, when shit's going very wrong, a sentry's not going to help you if you just call it in. 

Ben: 31:29

No. 

Aden: 31:29

But an eagle on your head will. 

Ben: 31:31

Yes. And even if it kills you, your friend can reinforce you. Whereas if you call a sentry and the bugs, if you're overwhelmed, the bugs will just kill it anyway, you're better off just taking something that's going to kill all the bugs, even if it kills you or your team as well. 

Aden: 31:43

one thing we haven't said is how you call in stratagems. we're obviously veterans of this game, I would say. I would call ourselves almost experts, especially at bug bashing. 

Ben: 31:51

True. 

Aden: 31:52

and we are so sad. Well, I think I am, because you have, when you call in a stratagem, you have to put an input code in. And I can't remember how long it is. But it's about, what, eight? Uh, at least eight, things. For the big ones. 

Ben: 32:08

Eight digits for the code. Yes. For the big ones, 

Aden: 32:10

Yeah, 

Ben: 32:10

it's

Aden: 32:10

for the, for the big ones, yeah. when you're playing the game,once you've launched your first one, you kind of remember the input codes. And remembering the input codes for the long ones just knows how long you've played the game for. Um, because now I know the input for napalm off, just by muscle memory, which is ridiculous. 

Ben: 32:25

it is, it'd be, you use it all the time, it just gets ingrained, doesn't it, into your memory, and then it becomes muscle memory, 

Aden: 32:31

I don't know how it works on the PlayStation and Xbox, but on PC, we have changed how we call our stratagems into using the arrow keys, pressing, pressing a button and using the arrow keys. 

Ben: 32:45

yes. Yeah, changing the keybinds is, is almost a must. 

Aden: 32:48

it was WAS'd before. So what happens is 

Ben: 32:52

Yeah. 

Aden: 32:52

you would call, you would press the button and then you would stop moving and then you'd have to use your W, A, S, D keys to do it. well as now I've changed mine to the home button and arrow keys, I don't know what your button is. 

Ben: 33:05

mine's zero on the number pad. 

Aden: 33:07

Zero. So zero for 

Ben: 33:08

Yeah. 

Aden: 33:08

you, home for me. 

Ben: 33:10

And then I just switch over to the arrow keys to, to call it in, and you can still move in that way, can't you? 

Aden: 33:15

Yeah, 

Ben: 33:15

So it's, 

Aden: 33:15

you can move and sprint because, you know, keyboards have come a long way. There's no such thing as ghosting anymore, pretty much. 

Ben: 33:21

nope. 

Aden: 33:21

Or you have to press like a thousand keys at once before it stops responding, so. 

Aden: 33:25

that moves us on to the armor. Which you can talk about because 

Ben: 33:31

Yes. 

Aden: 33:31

you use the other ones more than I have to be fair. 

Ben: 33:34

I've used all three now, although heavy is new to me, but light armour makes you just incredibly but you are very fragile. you're also quite but you'll almost, well, certainly die stylishly, at least, on level eight upwards. You need to very, very quick on some of the earlier levels to get all the samples, and get to all the different areas, and traverse the map quickly is, it's very helpful, at the higher levels, light armour is just, you, you just and then switching to medium armour, it's quite balanced, so you get the best of both worlds, you get a bit of a bit of speed with a bit of armour and I will say that's probably still my as, because can, each armour comes with different additional perks, and some of the medium armours have quite useful perks. definitely best for killing bugs and defending yourself against And in heavy, which is what I'm using recently, because we just seem to be playing level 10s all the time, uh, I am incredibly slow. I feel so sluggish. It's, I'm used to being able just to run across the map, go wherever I want outrun Aden, especially, because he's always used heavy as long as I can remember. Uh, and the advantages are it's incredibly tough, so you can shoot explosive weapons, you can get hit by multiple bugs, you can throw a grenade pretty much at the floor at your feet, and you won't die. So it is very, very Uh, you can eat rockets for breakfast. It's, it's great. But, you are incredibly slow. So, I don't know why it's been your favourite for so long. 

Aden: 35:01

happened was I was running, in the beginning of the game, I was running I was running the light armour with the grenade perk, if you remember that one, 

Ben: 35:10

Bright. 

Aden: 35:10

the one that gave you extra 

Ben: 35:11

Yes, 

Aden: 35:11

grenades, 

Ben: 35:11

I do, yeah. 

Aden: 35:13

and it was so good, I loved that armour, but it was only good until about level and the problem was because I used explosive weapons quite a medium armour just wasn't cutting it at that time, 

Ben: 35:24

No, when the bugs get in your face, it's...

Aden: 35:27

while there's heavy armour, I always see it as you do need a, at least one tank in the which is I decided to be for some reason, and I'm the one who pretty much now, well, you've joined the forgetting fuck club now as well, 

Ben: 35:40

Yeah, you have no choice. You can't run away, so you have to tank everything and kill it to be able to get away. It's your only choice. 

Aden: 35:47

I love heavy armour now, I just, I just can't live with it, I obviously call in the pack, so I can keep stimming in, that resets my which is 

Ben: 35:55

Yes, 

Aden: 35:55

quite useful. 

Ben: 35:55

because your stamina runs, runs out pretty quickly with heavy armour, so not only are you slower, but your stamina is slower, and your usage is quicker. So, all three combined just make you feel quite sluggish on the field. 

Aden: 36:09

then, of course, you get your guns, can't play it without guns, you've got your standard liberator, this is what you start because I think if you remember rightly, you have to unlock weapons as you go up levels as well. 

Ben: 36:21

Yeah, from memory, that's been, that's been a long time, but yeah, you do, you, you, as you level up, you get access to new weapons. 

Aden: 36:27

but the liberator quickly goes out of, I think about level four or five, you can't use it anymore, because things just take too much to kill, you cannot use it in level 10, you cannot kill 

Ben: 36:36

No. 

Aden: 36:36

things. Brood mothers, if you can't kill the brood mothers with one full clip of something, then do not take that gun, 

Ben: 36:43

It's 

Aden: 36:44

yeah. 

Ben: 36:44

no good. It's no good. Yeah. 

Aden: 36:45

Um, shotgun, they're all a lot of people still use the 

Ben: 36:49

Yeah. 

Aden: 36:49

flaming one, and they're

Ben: 36:51

The breaker in Sendry. 

Aden: 36:52

yeah, 

Ben: 36:52

Yeah. 

Aden: 36:52

up close, yeah, they're, I'm waiting for that halo

Ben: 36:56

Yes, we need to collect some more medals so we can unlock that, but it, it seems like the most powerful of the lot, so it will be interesting to use that. 

Aden: 37:02

And then you've got things like the rail and I would say you kill more teammates with which you kill a lot of teammates with it, to be but you also kill yourself a lot, 

Ben: 37:13

You do. You, you, you hold on to it for too long. 

Aden: 37:16

take it at your own risk, because if you start killing your teammates, they will kick you. Because I know I do, I kick people when they start killing me with, because they don't know how to use electric weapons properly. 

Ben: 37:25

Our personal favourite, the recoilist rifle, is next, and it's fantastic. We both take it on pretty much every mission we do, because it one hits everything that's medium armour upwards, everything from broodmothers up to bile titans, providing you hit them in the right place. 

Aden: 37:39

yeah. 

Ben: 37:39

It's, even if you miss, it can area damage is a lot, so it will do a lot of damage to everything surrounding it as well. 

Aden: 37:47

don't forget it's range. 

Ben: 37:49

Yes, you can, you can actually use it to shoot a lot of those sub-missions Aden was talking about earlier. You can use it to shoot down Shriekeness, you can use it to shoot down Sporespeers, you can use it to shoot down the Propaganda Towers from halfway across the It's just, you know, it's not a lot of damage, but it's a lot of damage to the right place. It's a lot of damage to the right It's, even if you miss, it can kill, it's, it's area, area damage is a lot, so it will do a lot of damage to everything surrounding it as well. Yes, you can, you can actually use it to shoot a lot of those sub-missions Aiden was talking about earlier. You can use it to shoot down Shriekeness, you can use it to shoot down Sporespeers, you can use it to shoot down the Propaganda Towers from halfway across the map. It's just incredible. 

Aden: 38:04

As long as you can see it, and you perfect your aim, because there, there is obviously bullet drop in this, as long as you do that, you can hit anything from across the map, while there's things like the eruptor or other missiles, they kind of deviate. This one, if you know how to shoot it, always hits its mark. 

Ben: 38:20

It's true. The, the only downside for me was I always used to run the shield pack. And the shield pack was really even at the high levels, when I had light and medium armor, because it would give you that extra armor you were losing from not having heavy, it'd give you an extra couple of hits you could take before you died, but the recoil-less rifle has an ammo backpack to go with it, so unfortunately you can only carry that, you can't have any jump packs or backpacks of any sort with that, unfortunately. 

Aden: 38:46

Yeah, I think that's also probably another reason that I was running heavy armor, was because I was always using something with a backpack, 

Ben: 38:53

Yes. 

Aden: 38:53

because they used to use the autocannon a And then once the autocannon got useless, because obviously after a certain level it

Ben: 38:59

it does, you need to upgrade. 

Aden: 39:01

and then our favorite, the eruptor, it is the best all-round weapon, because it can close bug holes in bug nests, it can destroy shrieker nests with, with about four hits, basically it can kill everything, except the big guys, uh, because that, that would take a lot of hits to kill, but anything, brood mother and below, perfect for shriekers, definitely not, um, but it's small sacrifice to make. 

Ben: 39:28

It is, that's why you have a good secondary, when you run the eruptor you need to use a good pistol, just so you can kill things like shriekers, and just as a backup in general, because it can take quite a while to reload. 

Aden: 39:40

Yeah, and I think these weapons are in war bonds as well, some of them, uh, I can't, I don't think the eruptor is, so the is basically probably the best weapon that's not in a war bond, but our pistol that we run with, the revolver one, is in a war bond, well, the normal secondaries are shit, 

Ben: 39:57

Yep, 

Aden: 39:57

it's the war bond secondaries that are good, so you have to get war bonds, but you do a free war bond when you start the game, and also you can, you can pick up super credits along the way, so you don't generally have to pay for it, but every now and again we just throw a fiver or a tenner arrowheads away, because they, they do a good job with the game. 

Ben: 40:16

it do, and they release these war bonds every, sort of once every month or two don't they, so I don't know if there is a set schedule as such, but they always include normally a couple of armor sets, a main weapon and maybe a secondary weapon, sometimes a stratagem as well, and then other times you normally get just capes and camouflages and things. 

Aden: 40:37

And then there are the grenades. The I kinda use them as I've run out of ammo and oh shit we're being and I use the instant uh, explosive ones. 

Ben: 40:48

The impact grenades, yes. Big favourite. No, no, they are by the most useful I think, because timing things with frag grenades is difficult, incendiary grenades have quite a small area of effect, so I think the impact grenades are the most useful, especially when you're in a no-shit situation, which is all the time. 

Aden: 41:09

frags are probably the best for closing holes and nothing else. 

Ben: 41:12

Yes. 

Aden: 41:13

Uh, cause with an impact you have to directly hit it with a frag you can kinda hit on it's side and it'll roll in. 

Ben: 41:18

Yes, yeah, and then you get utility, like stun grenades, and they just blind all of your teammates, they're so 

Aden: 41:25

yeah, 

Ben: 41:25

useless. 

Aden: 41:25

no one uses them, never seen anyone use a stun grenade. Ah, well, obviously 

Ben: 41:29

No. 

Aden: 41:29

the first time they use them and then they blind you and no one else ever uses it again. 

Ben: 41:34

You kick those people. That's why we never 

Aden: 41:35

Yeah. 

Ben: 41:36

see them. 

Aden: 41:37

And then there's thermite, which quite a few people use, but it's very slow burning, so, generally on the higher levels you don't see many people using thermite. 

Ben: 41:47

So, yes. Helldivers 2 is chaos, comedy, and carnage rolled into one perfect fucking package, and you'll die a lot. You'll die all the time. You'll laugh harder than you ever have you'll yell all sorts of insults and slurs, like, get in the pod, get in the... Oh, fuck, I fucked it. What's the ship called at the end? 

Aden: 42:08

Oh, uh, oh fucking hell, I'll just call it Extraction. 

Ben: 42:12

You will yell things like, get in the pod, get in the extraction vehicle, while all your squad mates are on fire around you. It is fantastic. 

Aden: 42:21

Yes, yes, we have been on fire many a times going into the pod. 

Ben: 42:24

We have all the time, and so have our teammates, actually, and sometimes you run through fire just to dive in with your last 

Aden: 42:31

Yep. 

Ben: 42:31

breath. 

Aden: 42:31

And it's definitely the only game where your success depends entirely on not killing each other. But you still um, and it's not toxic, it's love, you know, there- I think there have only ever been two players I've come across who generally team kill. So 

Ben: 42:46

Yeah. 

Aden: 42:46

in- in the time this game has been out, I've only come across two, and it's so easy just to kick them out and then just call in another one, it's not a big deal. 

Ben: 42:55

No, it's a good system, actually, and 

Aden: 42:56

yeah. 

Ben: 42:57

you can, you know, remove players that are being toxic, if there are, a lot of the time it's love, as you call it. Accidentals, as Helldiver 

Aden: 43:04

yeah, 

Ben: 43:04

calls it. 

Aden: 43:04

teamwork is essential, and so is flamethrowers are great. Mostly for setting your team on 

Ben: 43:09

Yeah, 

Aden: 43:10

fire. 

Ben: 43:10

so do orbital lasers. 

Aden: 43:12

Yeah, also great, but they also kill your obviously I love shooting Ben into the void after every mission. Or during, it doesn't matter. 

Ben: 43:21

That's normally both, 

Aden: 43:22

Yeah, 

Ben: 43:22

isn't it? Halfway through and at the end. 

Aden: 43:25

we do try and kill each other sometimes halfway across the map, um, which is quite fun. 

Ben: 43:30

It's good fun. It's good fun. It is good fun. But to round up, yeah, so welcome to Helldivers, Xbox players. You're going to love it, you're going to hate it, 

Aden: 43:36

yeah. 

Ben: 43:37

and you're going to reload while screaming and pray your mate doesn't accidentally nuke you. 

Aden: 43:42

So, you know, grab whatever democracy cape you want, because you have to wear a cape in this game. There's no getting around it. Jump in your drop pod, and join us in spreading freedom violently. And remember, the only good bug is one that exploded all over your face. 

Ben: 44:01

For super fun. I don't know. It's love, as you call it. Accidentals, as Helldiver calls it. Yeah. So do orbital lasers. That's normally both, isn't it? Halfway through and at the end. It's good fun. It's good fun. It's good fun. But to round up, yeah, so welcome to Helldivers, Xbox players. You're going to love it. You're going to hate it. And you're going to reload while screaming and pray your mate doesn't accidentally nuke you. For super fucking Earth. 

Aden: 44:03

Yeah, 

Ben: 44:03

Yeah. 

Aden: 44:04

where's the stop button? If I didn't press record, that'd be so funny.